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richard



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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject: Screen Guides and Measurements Reply with quote

Does Curio have the ability to:

1. Display guides. The sort of tool where you can set a line at a specific horizontal or vertical dimension.

2. Change the dimensions of the ruler to pixels?

Thanks.
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george
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When dragging out figures (lines, rectangles, etc) you should see a tooltip with various dimension attributes. For example, for lines you see it's length and angle. For rectangles, you see the width and height. Any length values are in pixels. We don't currently have a way to change that into inches.

We also support the standard Mac ruler, which is displayed in inches, although we don't have a way to change that into pixels.

We'll look into customizing the units for the tooltip and ruler.
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bots



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:55 pm    Post subject: rulers? Reply with quote

I just loaded the newest version and I am not able to create some useful output (on A4 papersize or .PDFs). So I tried to work with papersize and objectsize - by using the search I found this 3 yrs old post. I think this is solved in the meantime, but cannot find the dimension preferences to change that to mm (millimeters). Maybe someone can give me a hint?
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george
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing new to report here. I'll make sure other units are on the todo list. We haven't had many requests for that but we really should support them.
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bots



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

george wrote:
... we really should support them.

definitely - there are no inches in Central Europe Rolling Eyes

Is there any other way to generate .PDFs which are fitting to a specific size-format (lets say 210x297 mm - typically for my uses)? Otherwise I cannot share information to anybody as 'readable' versions...
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george
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Via File > Page Setup you can specify a page that is non-US. We've always supported A4 and other international sizes. If you can choose a paper size that matches your dimension requirement you should be all set.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I got that completly wrong - I set the paper size to A4. Then I try to put my objects (eg a list) in a frame that fits on this site (measured by the rulers in inches). When printing I choose NOT to fitting each idea space on a single site - the pages are printed on A4, BUT:
the width of the paper size is 21 cm (which is A4) - if I calculate this to inches then I get approx 7,8 inches for the printable/exportable page. If I adjust my 'objects' in a 'frame' having a width of 18,7 inches, then this seems to fit on 21 cm paper.

I thought the ruler would be inches, but in fact is not - what measurement is ist??? It's the same with printing and exporting.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ruler should be in inches since I'm not changing it to another measurement unit.

Perhaps the page margin is the issue?

Go into File > Project Properties and look at the default margins.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also tried it with the "Welcome" Project - the same here... if you need it, I can send you some screenshots...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, send me some screenshot (george at zengobi).
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bots



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent you screenshot and .PDF - maybe some problem with my installation?

Maybbe I did not get it right up to now... What is the preferred method to create a space intended to be exported as .PDFs in specific format? Can I put something like a frame around it to manage ideaspace-size to corresponding print-size?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bots wrote:
.... Can I put something like a frame around it to manage ideaspace-size to corresponding print-size?


This is one way that I have managed my set up, either to show presentations or print pages in consistent sizes. You can create an Idea Space that has a box frame of the appropriate aspect ratio (8.5x11 or A4 or HD or 4:3 or ....). Save that Idea Space as a template (letter.portrait, letter.landscape, present.VGA, present.HD ...). Pull in the template that you need for the case at hand and constrain your objects to be within that frame.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="jjweimer"]
bots wrote:
... create an Idea Space that has a box frame of the appropriate aspect ratio (8.5x11 or A4 or HD or 4:3 or ....)...

Thank you...
> Inspector > Idea Space > Dimensions .... I guess? Embarassed
Pages or Screens Setup? Are these values meant to be inches?
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george
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the Dimensions inspector.

The "pages" indicator would be whatever the File > Page Setup is set for. So, if it's A4 then then a pages setting of 1 by 1 would mean a single sheet of A4 paper.

The "screens" indicator is based on your Mac's screen resolution. On my 27" iMac a screen would be 2560 x 1440. On my MacBookPro it's 1440x900.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="bots"]
jjweimer wrote:
bots wrote:
... create an Idea Space that has a box frame of the appropriate aspect ratio (8.5x11 or A4 or HD or 4:3 or ....)...

Thank you...
> Inspector > Idea Space > Dimensions .... I guess? Embarassed
Pages or Screens Setup? Are these values meant to be inches?


Oh .... these are aspect ratios, not absolute dimensions. They are set in the Inspector : Dimensions panel of the Shelf as pixel dimensions.

letter.portrait: 850 x 1100 (or 1700 x 2200 if you'd like more room on the Idea Space with commensurate smaller objects overall when printing or presenting)
letter.landscape: 1100 x 850
present.VGA: 640 x 480
present.HD: 1600 x 900
...

I draw such a frame rectangle and push it in to the top left corner of the idea space.

The only "bug" with this method is, printing and presenting puts more border on the bottom and right of the page. It may be related to the "bug" that I have noticed when printing an Idea Space as multiple pages ... sometimes objects from one page on an Idea Space "leak" across to another.

In other words, the above frame sizes (and the page boundary markings when you want to print an Idea Space over multiple pages) are only approximations to where your true page will print or present.

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JJW
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